Date sent:        Fri, 25 Aug 1995 05:45:48 -0700
From:             m1aport@ix.netcom.com (RICHARD DESOUSA)
Subject:          Re: The Ebola virus - the end of the civilize
To:               "Ed Rybicki" 

You wrote: 
>
>> To:            virology@net.bio.net
>> From:          m1aport@ix.netcom.com (RICHARD DESOUSA)
>> Subject:       Re: The Ebola virus - the end of the civilize
>> Date:          24 Aug 1995 04:45:58 GMT
>
>> In  
KERSTING.PATHLOGY@mail.health.ufl.edu
>> writes: 
>> >>>>>>That the Ebola virus is a terrible threat to mankind is
>> >undoubtable,...... 
>> >Indeed, Ebola is the mightiest threat mankind has faced yet.<<<<<
>> >
>> >Hmm...Wouldn't you consider AIDS as a much bigger threat to
>> >mankind????
>> >
>> >Robert
>
>> No because AIDS is a behavior driven disease.  The majority of the
>> world's population is heterosexual and unless we all started to 
consort
>> with drug addicts or hookers, or become hemophiliacs, there isn't 
much
>> of a chance AIDS will affect the majority of us.
>
>You are a DIPWIT of the first order...there are approximately 11 000 
>000 people of both sexes (pretty evenlyt spread) estimated to be 
>infected with HIV in sub-Saharan Africa ALONE - and I would estimate 
>that only a vanishingly small number of them are, or have sexually 
>consorted with, drug addicts; a SMALL number of them are 
>haemophiliacs; most of them will not be or will not have consorted 
>with, prostitutes.  HIV/AIDS is a disease of NORMAL PEOPLE - who 
>consort NORMALLY with other NORMAL people, who MAY have had the 
>misfortune to have had intimate contact with someONE who had 
>contracted the disease.  And in Africa, it is NOT via infected blood 
>products or by needle abuse; it is by sex.  DON'T assume because in 
>the US the disease is PRESENTLY mainly limited to IV drug abusers / 
>haemophiliacs / prostitutes / gays that it will not become an 
>ordinary heterosexual STD.  You don't have that security.
>
> ______________________________________________________
> |     Ed Rybicki, PhD      |  ed@molbiol.uct.ac.za   |

You're the DIPWIT!  If after attempting to educate those who continue 
to insist that unprotected sex is dangerous and suicidal, and they 
CONTINUE to behave in the same manner, then they deserve to die!   
We're no different than any other organism existing on this planetwith 
the exception that we think and understand the effects of our behavior. 
If these people refuse to modify their behavior then they will go the 
way of the dodo bird.  I am sick and tired of hearing people blame 
anyother one else except themselves for their behavior.

Rich


To:               virology@net.bio.net
From:             c601591@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Don Haut)
Subject:          Re: The Ebola virus - the end of the civilize
Date sent:        27 Aug 1995 16:01:05 GMT

In article <41h066$1c9@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, m1aport@ix.netcom.com
(RICHARD DESOUSA) wrote:
> No because AIDS is a behavior driven disease.  The majority of the
> world's population is heterosexual and unless we all started to consort
> with drug addicts or hookers, or become hemophiliacs, there isn't much
> of a chance AIDS will affect the majority of us.



Once again......  POOP!  

Attitudes like that will allow HIV to reach it's potential as the modern
Yersinia pestis!

I hope you are not in a position to make policy decisions or, worse yet, teach
!

No disrespect intended, but you are just wrong.  HIV is, on a global
scale, limited to NO particular group.

Don

Don Haut 
Molecular Microbiology and Immunology
University of Missouri-Columbia
C601591@showme.missouri.edu
314-882-3171

To:               virology@net.bio.net
From:             LAURENCE TILEY 
Subject:          Re: The Ebola virus - the end of the civilize
Date sent:        24 Aug 1995 14:35:20 GMT


> No because AIDS is a behavior driven disease.  The majority of the
> world's population is heterosexual and unless we all started to consort
> with drug addicts or hookers, or become hemophiliacs, there isn't much
> of a chance AIDS will affect the majority of us.
> 
> 
This is a dangerous and all too common view to hold.
I agree that with the current incidence of HIV infection, if
you avoid high risk behaviour completely YOUR chances of infection
are remote. But as the disease continues to expand out of the high risk
groups it makes it harder to maintain such safe practices (unless you become c
elebate).
If  HIV infection became truly wide spread  in the future, your children would
 find it
rather hard to avoid. Take for example the incidence of Human Papilloma virus.
 This is also 
an incurable sexually transmitted disease. Remarkably few sexual encounters ar
e required
someone will be infected. Here we are all in a high risk group (monogamous ind
ividuals and 
virgins excepted). 
HIV is still an emerging disease, but it has demonstrated the ability to persi
st and expand in its
new host (unlike Ebola). Maximum effort should be directed at limiting its spr
ead. It is getting
 a grip around our throat now. If  we stick our heads in the sand, as you sugg
est,
 we will surely soffocate.

My opinion, for what its worth.

LT.